1 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:13,459 okay well I kind of regret that I 2 00:00:19,190 --> 00:00:15,360 actually finished this a while ago 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:19,200 because with all of these talks on such 4 00:00:28,130 --> 00:00:21,210 closely related topics I wish I could 5 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:28,140 adapt mine a bit anyway as an overview 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Concilio firs two independent support of 7 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:32,970 the same factor explanation by multiple 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:35,430 independent lines of evidence now the 9 00:00:40,490 --> 00:00:38,850 modern scientific consensus is supported 10 00:00:43,820 --> 00:00:40,500 by conciliate evidence from many 11 00:00:45,950 --> 00:00:43,830 different fields now as we in the sse 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:45,960 all very well know there are also a lot 13 00:00:52,549 --> 00:00:48,930 of anomalies observed there incompatible 14 00:00:54,649 --> 00:00:52,559 with that and the the essence of my 15 00:00:57,020 --> 00:00:54,659 argument here is that enough anomalies 16 00:00:59,380 --> 00:00:57,030 have been observed to provide Concilium 17 00:01:02,539 --> 00:00:59,390 support for an alternative framework 18 00:01:05,210 --> 00:01:02,549 that would I think be on a a better 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:05,220 footing to challenge the current 20 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:07,170 consensus rather than trying to chip 21 00:01:16,429 --> 00:01:10,729 away around the edges anomaly by anomaly 22 00:01:19,459 --> 00:01:16,439 just a quick look at the sections of 23 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:19,469 this talk so starting with Concilium 24 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:21,990 sand consensus and I'm going to skip 25 00:01:27,169 --> 00:01:24,000 over that I'm going to try to go fast 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:27,179 here because I think people are now 27 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:28,890 aware of a lot of applications of 28 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:29,880 Concilium 29 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:32,310 it's been used since ancient times not 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:34,320 under that name 31 00:01:40,219 --> 00:01:37,770 a lot of our well all of our mainstream 32 00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:40,229 scientific theories that everybody has 33 00:01:48,289 --> 00:01:43,909 heard of enjoy considerable conciliate 34 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:48,299 and synthesizing that over the course of 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:52,079 time has brought us to the mainstream 36 00:01:59,090 --> 00:01:54,450 world view of reductionistic materialism 37 00:02:01,279 --> 00:01:59,100 which has also been discussed a lot but 38 00:02:04,309 --> 00:02:01,289 the structure of that is that basic 39 00:02:06,379 --> 00:02:04,319 models are supported by conciliate 40 00:02:08,779 --> 00:02:06,389 observations of many different types and 41 00:02:10,910 --> 00:02:08,789 then these models themselves provide 42 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:10,920 considerate Concilium support for 43 00:02:16,789 --> 00:02:13,920 underlying models and ultimately that's 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:16,799 all drawn together into the premise that 45 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:19,050 physical reality consists of l 46 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:21,030 entry particles and fields interacting 47 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:22,830 according to mathematically specifiable 48 00:02:29,210 --> 00:02:25,680 laws and that's it that is the whole of 49 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:29,220 reality now you can still get emergent 50 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:31,140 properties one of the simplest examples 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:32,940 of an emergent property is temperature 52 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:34,890 which is meaningless for a single 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:37,350 particle it's a property only of bulk 54 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:41,730 collections and again at each transition 55 00:02:46,130 --> 00:02:44,190 between levels of explanation there are 56 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:46,140 huge numbers of Concilium conservation 57 00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:50,280 x' to support the connection so now now 58 00:02:52,910 --> 00:02:52,020 that we've outlined what we're up 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:52,920 against 60 00:02:58,820 --> 00:02:55,770 I'm going to try to make a brief catalog 61 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:58,830 of anomalies but when when thinking 62 00:03:03,860 --> 00:03:01,680 about anomalies I I can't resist this 63 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:03,870 cork quote from jorge luis borges 64 00:03:09,860 --> 00:03:06,930 we the undivided divinity operating 65 00:03:12,410 --> 00:03:09,870 within us have dreamt the world we have 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:12,420 dreamt at his firm mysterious visible 67 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:14,850 ubiquitous in space and durable in time 68 00:03:19,850 --> 00:03:17,280 but in its architecture we have allowed 69 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:19,860 tenuous and eternal crevices of unreason 70 00:03:26,449 --> 00:03:24,180 which tell us it is false so a 71 00:03:28,190 --> 00:03:26,459 scientific anomaly is something that 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:28,200 doesn't fit with the current scientific 73 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:32,010 and understanding trouble is a natural 74 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:34,890 law cannot have exceptions so any 75 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:36,840 natural law that seems to have expected 76 00:03:42,110 --> 00:03:39,590 exceptions isn't really a law and 77 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:42,120 because it can be an awful lot of work 78 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:47,030 to try to eliminate and replace a 79 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:49,980 currently accepted law it's awfully 80 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:51,690 tempting to ignore anomalous 81 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:53,489 observations and dismiss them as an 82 00:03:59,780 --> 00:03:58,080 error of some kind so the SSC of course 83 00:04:02,690 --> 00:03:59,790 we're all about anomalies we've been 84 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:02,700 presenting them for years so I'm going 85 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:09,110 anomalous topics that the SSC has looked 86 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:10,739 at and how they relate to the mainstream 87 00:04:15,729 --> 00:04:13,230 consensus I do not claim that this is 88 00:04:19,310 --> 00:04:15,739 comprehensive it's only a 25-minute talk 89 00:04:22,250 --> 00:04:19,320 twenty minutes aside from questions now 90 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:22,260 some SSC topics fit quite easily into 91 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:25,340 the mainstream consensus cryptozoology 92 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:28,200 there is no fundamental laws it says 93 00:04:33,370 --> 00:04:29,880 that it can't be any undiscovered 94 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:35,660 cryptozoology is only a fringe topic 95 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:38,030 because it's caught in a catch-22 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:40,650 anytime the cryptozoologist verify that 97 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:42,570 something exists it stops being part of 98 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:46,710 their subject matter electro sensitivity 99 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:51,290 a very contentious topic but we had a a 100 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:54,180 very good session on that two years ago 101 00:04:59,750 --> 00:04:57,810 in Yale and basically the only reason 102 00:05:01,790 --> 00:04:59,760 that electro sensitivity is a fringe 103 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:01,800 topic is that the American Physical 104 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:04,910 Society doesn't want to believe in it 105 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:07,950 now anomalies that may fit the 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:13,260 mainstream consensus dowsing most people 107 00:05:18,830 --> 00:05:15,210 think of dowsing as a psychic phenomenon 108 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:18,840 but in in ninety-five hans-dieter bets 109 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:21,840 published a tremendous monograph in the 110 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:25,650 JSE in which he argued that dowsing is 111 00:05:31,190 --> 00:05:27,660 actually eight learn about trainable 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:31,200 physical sensitivity to geophysical 113 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:37,170 effects UFOs last year hal put off gave 114 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:39,840 us an excellent talk on evidence that 115 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:44,880 some UFO sightings are appear very 116 00:05:50,990 --> 00:05:47,850 strongly now to be piloted vehicles that 117 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:51,000 surpass any known human technology again 118 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:52,800 there is nothing in the laws of nature 119 00:05:58,280 --> 00:05:55,230 that says that our hue our technology is 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:05:58,290 the best possible so and there is 121 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:00,330 nothing in the laws of nature that says 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:04,340 that all intelligence has to be human so 123 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,410 you have ufos of this class might fit 124 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:08,880 perfectly well into the existing 125 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:11,160 consensus because we don't know what the 126 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:17,040 limits of possible technology are non 127 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:19,890 ETI UFOs people are looking into earth 128 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:22,160 lights anomalous weather phenomena again 129 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,720 they may fit just fine into the 130 00:06:29,030 --> 00:06:27,360 mainstream we don't know if they require 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:29,040 any revisions of our current 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:32,010 understanding of natural law and then 133 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:34,650 there is healing which i apologize to 134 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:35,850 all of the people who love healing 135 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:37,560 research it's tremendously important 136 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:39,480 it's also tremendously broad and diverse 137 00:06:46,219 --> 00:06:42,180 it covers a vast number of different 138 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:46,229 topics and now it might be 139 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:49,740 I'll be revisiting it later as things 140 00:06:55,719 --> 00:06:51,680 that don't fit but there are some people 141 00:06:58,670 --> 00:06:55,729 for example Ashman who argues that 142 00:07:01,459 --> 00:06:58,680 healing is essentially manipulating the 143 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:01,469 bioelectric by owee electromagnetic 144 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:03,180 field of the human organism in 145 00:07:08,089 --> 00:07:06,180 beneficial ways that look like they 146 00:07:11,570 --> 00:07:08,099 would fit into the mainstream consensus 147 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:11,580 with very little fiddling and then there 148 00:07:16,429 --> 00:07:13,050 are the things that just don't fit the 149 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:16,439 consensus at all and I've tried to group 150 00:07:20,899 --> 00:07:18,749 these into three broad topics survival 151 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:20,909 information acquisition and mental 152 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:24,810 influence on physical systems at this 153 00:07:29,149 --> 00:07:26,490 point I want to make a brief comment 154 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:29,159 about fraud almost everything that I'm 155 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:31,169 about to discuss has been subject to 156 00:07:37,249 --> 00:07:33,449 allegations of fraud and in a few cases 157 00:07:40,219 --> 00:07:37,259 proof of fraud so it's not to repeat the 158 00:07:42,679 --> 00:07:40,229 same point every time I'm simply going 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:42,689 to note here that for every phenomenon 160 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:44,490 I'm discussing there is strong evidence 161 00:07:52,969 --> 00:07:49,710 that some cases are not fraudulent okay 162 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:52,979 survival and this is multiple types of 163 00:07:56,749 --> 00:07:55,110 observation that suggests that human 164 00:08:01,129 --> 00:07:56,759 consciousness can persist after death 165 00:08:02,719 --> 00:08:01,139 there is a physical mediumship where 166 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:02,729 some physical mediums have produced 167 00:08:06,170 --> 00:08:04,649 physical phenomena which they attribute 168 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:06,180 to spirits of the deceased for more 169 00:08:11,420 --> 00:08:09,240 information talk to Steve Browdy mental 170 00:08:13,249 --> 00:08:11,430 mediumship there is also a large body of 171 00:08:15,619 --> 00:08:13,259 very convincing evidence that mental 172 00:08:18,559 --> 00:08:15,629 mediums acquire vertical information 173 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:18,569 from deceased personalities for more 174 00:08:23,779 --> 00:08:21,199 information talk to Julie by shal 175 00:08:27,499 --> 00:08:23,789 researched on on channeling suggests 176 00:08:29,089 --> 00:08:27,509 that as mu AG and suspicious as it is it 177 00:08:31,969 --> 00:08:29,099 seems to be much the same thing as 178 00:08:34,130 --> 00:08:31,979 mental mediumship yeah I can't tell you 179 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:34,140 to ask Arthur Hastings about it because 180 00:08:48,890 --> 00:08:43,760 then the well yes you'll have to consult 181 00:08:51,470 --> 00:08:48,900 a medium or be one then past lives the 182 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:51,480 work of Stevenson Harrelson Tucker and 183 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:55,410 for all I know others has generated a 184 00:08:59,090 --> 00:08:56,880 lot of evidence that some children 185 00:09:00,680 --> 00:08:59,100 spontaneously develop first-person 186 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:00,690 memories from other people who lived 187 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:03,930 before them and this seems to me to be a 188 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:07,230 very convincing line of evidence that 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:10,950 human personalities exist before birth 190 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:13,410 as well as after death and that they 191 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:16,560 they move from body to body 192 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:19,650 there are out-of-body experiences and 193 00:09:24,140 --> 00:09:22,530 near-death experiences I'm I'm sorry to 194 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:24,150 lump those together I'm sure that 195 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:26,130 purists would have lots of objections 196 00:09:32,170 --> 00:09:29,910 but the point I find of interest here is 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:32,180 that they provide strong evidence that 198 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:34,970 people continue to experience 199 00:09:39,830 --> 00:09:37,320 consciousness even while their brains 200 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:39,840 are flatlining and doing no detectable 201 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:42,960 neural processing and then there's 202 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:43,770 discarnates 203 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:48,090 a topic that I've heard several survival 204 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:51,350 researchers discuss which seems to 205 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:53,490 basically they're trying to detect the 206 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:55,860 presence of bodyless intelligences in 207 00:10:01,420 --> 00:09:58,440 their laboratories and they have met 208 00:10:04,490 --> 00:10:01,430 with some measure of success in doing so 209 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:04,500 okay information acquisition remote 210 00:10:12,860 --> 00:10:08,160 viewing and I'm sorry that the format is 211 00:10:15,230 --> 00:10:12,870 so messed up there but I'm using that as 212 00:10:17,540 --> 00:10:15,240 a catch-all term for something that 213 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:17,550 actually incorporates several different 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:19,290 conciliate lines of experimental 215 00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:24,090 evidence already including not not just 216 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:26,340 what's explicitly called remote viewing 217 00:10:33,170 --> 00:10:30,240 which has multiple training technologies 218 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:33,180 multiple evaluation methodologies but 219 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:36,360 also I I'd like to use this category to 220 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:38,610 collect remote perception studies 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:42,090 ganzfeld studies and older Rhine ian 222 00:10:47,090 --> 00:10:44,490 paradigm experiments of looking at 223 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:47,100 couple clairvoyance precognition and 224 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:51,220 telepathy then another Jean 225 00:10:58,490 --> 00:10:53,680 is presentiment experiments which now 226 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:58,500 have a very large body of evidence that 227 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:00,880 human beings will have measurable 228 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:02,950 physical physiological reactions to 229 00:11:10,860 --> 00:11:06,810 unpredictable stimuli before they happen 230 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:10,870 okay physical consequences of our v d CR 231 00:11:15,150 --> 00:11:13,840 v for short I admit this is just one 232 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:15,160 experiment but I think it's a very 233 00:11:21,540 --> 00:11:17,920 important experiment Dean Radin has 234 00:11:24,210 --> 00:11:21,550 published results showing that putting a 235 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:24,220 remote viewers viewpoint of observation 236 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:26,890 into a quantum mechanical experiment to 237 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:30,010 observe the process has the same effect 238 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:32,260 on the quantum statistics as sticking in 239 00:11:41,010 --> 00:11:37,290 any other low resolution measuring tool 240 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:41,020 then D Mills is another genre of 241 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:43,570 experiment direct mental influence on 242 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:46,330 living systems since that always 243 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:49,840 involves both a target and an agent 244 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:52,000 there is some question on D Mills 245 00:11:57,060 --> 00:11:55,330 experiments whether it should be 246 00:12:00,330 --> 00:11:57,070 regarded as the target acquiring 247 00:12:02,430 --> 00:12:00,340 information or the agent imposing 248 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:02,440 influence age so I'm going listed in 249 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:08,810 now mental influence micro pk and of 250 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:11,710 course I simply couldn't resist putting 251 00:12:18,090 --> 00:12:16,210 at least one pair slide in this talk but 252 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:18,100 detectable change in the behavior of 253 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:19,990 random physical systems resulting from 254 00:12:24,930 --> 00:12:22,570 some sort of mental intervention and 255 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:24,940 there is again a huge body of evidence 256 00:12:31,950 --> 00:12:28,830 on the topic macro pk 257 00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:31,960 most reports of macro pk are anecdotal 258 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:36,070 but at last year's meeting we had one 259 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:39,030 person presenting Sean McNamara who's 260 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:41,400 shown at the right of the slide 261 00:12:47,870 --> 00:12:43,900 presenting on a technique for training 262 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:47,880 telekinesis as he calls it and another 263 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:51,310 presenter at that conference presented 264 00:12:56,130 --> 00:12:53,410 successful replication with McNamara's 265 00:12:59,600 --> 00:12:56,140 technique so that that that looks to me 266 00:13:02,400 --> 00:12:59,610 like a pretty good case of replication 267 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:02,410 continuing mental influence okay repeat 268 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:03,940 appearance of D males repeat appearance 269 00:13:06,809 --> 00:13:04,660 of 270 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:06,819 cr-v and then just in order to have a 271 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:10,569 different name for it I'm using bio PK 272 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:14,350 to refer to anomalous healing that 273 00:13:19,379 --> 00:13:16,870 doesn't fit in to the electromagnetic 274 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:19,389 paradigm things like effects at a long 275 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:22,240 distance effects that take place off 276 00:13:33,449 --> 00:13:30,100 time and now finding anomalous Concilium 277 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:33,459 trying to integrate these various 278 00:13:39,929 --> 00:13:35,550 findings from different kinds of studies 279 00:13:42,869 --> 00:13:39,939 I it seems to me to fall out very 280 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:42,879 naturally into three hypotheses each of 281 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:47,470 which have multiple lines of support so 282 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:50,139 first hypothesis humans or human-like 283 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:53,410 minds can function without physical 284 00:13:59,850 --> 00:13:57,970 brains or bodies so mediumship NDE past 285 00:14:02,309 --> 00:13:59,860 lives and discarnates all seem to 286 00:14:06,829 --> 00:14:02,319 support this hypothesis and they they 287 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:09,179 humans can gain information about the 288 00:14:13,340 --> 00:14:10,689 world by means other than the known 289 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:13,350 physical senses again that's 290 00:14:20,189 --> 00:14:15,850 demonstrated by our v presentiment D 291 00:14:22,530 --> 00:14:20,199 Mills and PCR V and a third hypothesis 292 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:22,540 humans can affect the world by means 293 00:14:27,420 --> 00:14:24,430 other than manipulation with their 294 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:27,430 physical bodies lines of support there 295 00:14:38,309 --> 00:14:30,880 are micro PK macro PK PCR DD Mills and 296 00:14:40,829 --> 00:14:38,319 bio PK now those three hypotheses given 297 00:14:43,530 --> 00:14:40,839 that each of them enjoys a considerable 298 00:14:46,499 --> 00:14:43,540 level of significance iliyan support 299 00:14:49,230 --> 00:14:46,509 from multiple experiments can be taken 300 00:14:52,499 --> 00:14:49,240 as Concilium support for an overarching 301 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:52,509 hypothesis important parts of the human 302 00:14:57,150 --> 00:14:55,000 mind including its internal operations 303 00:15:00,439 --> 00:14:57,160 as well as inputs from and outputs to 304 00:15:04,439 --> 00:15:00,449 the surrounding world are not physical 305 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:04,449 okay and by not physical I'm using a 306 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:07,209 shorthand not composed of any known form 307 00:15:13,019 --> 00:15:10,689 of matter or energy we could take this 308 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,029 to mean some currently unknown form of 309 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:15,519 matter and energy except that the 310 00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:17,290 current mainstream consensus physics 311 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:18,460 insists that there is 312 00:15:25,410 --> 00:15:21,760 room in the theory for any such new and 313 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:25,420 entities so thank you my my fellow 314 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:28,050 physicist colleagues your intransigence 315 00:15:37,650 --> 00:15:30,880 has forced me to deny the validity of 316 00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:37,660 your entire field good going now the 317 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:39,670 concept of non-physical entities is 318 00:15:44,730 --> 00:15:42,160 often rejected on the basis of another 319 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:44,740 premise only physical things can 320 00:15:49,769 --> 00:15:48,310 interact with physical things I'm not 321 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:49,779 signing that because I don't know how 322 00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:51,760 many times I've heard it it's an error 323 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,160 in reasoning you can take that premise 324 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:56,320 as a definition of what you mean by 325 00:16:01,230 --> 00:15:58,690 physical the trouble is when you take 326 00:16:04,139 --> 00:16:01,240 that as the definition of physical you 327 00:16:06,060 --> 00:16:04,149 give up the idea to assume a lot of 328 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:06,070 conventional things about what we 329 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:08,170 consider physical such that they take up 330 00:16:14,699 --> 00:16:12,610 space or have a definite location so 331 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:14,709 trying to sketch a new consensus and all 332 00:16:19,230 --> 00:16:17,310 this is going to be as a cat sketch 333 00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:19,240 consciousness is not dependent on a 334 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:21,100 material brain and therefore cannot be 335 00:16:25,230 --> 00:16:22,930 an emergent property of material 336 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:25,240 structures and it interacts with the 337 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:26,890 rest of the world by rules that differ 338 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:29,350 from currently known physical law it 339 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:31,209 seems natural to conclude from that that 340 00:16:35,490 --> 00:16:33,130 consciousness is a fundamental part of 341 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:35,500 reality with zone rules and properties 342 00:16:39,570 --> 00:16:37,690 now this has been stipulated by 343 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:39,580 philosophers going back hundreds of 344 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:42,670 years but here we can see that it's also 345 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:45,310 an inference emerging from conciliate 346 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:48,190 evidence now what do I mean by 347 00:16:52,019 --> 00:16:50,020 fundamental there are at least three 348 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:52,029 different versions that have been 349 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:55,420 propounded by philosophers idealism 350 00:16:59,880 --> 00:16:57,010 consciousness is the only thing that's 351 00:17:02,190 --> 00:16:59,890 real dupes dualism consciousness and 352 00:17:04,140 --> 00:17:02,200 materials are equally real and pants 353 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:04,150 psychism consciousness is fundamental 354 00:17:08,730 --> 00:17:06,670 because it is part of every physical 355 00:17:10,829 --> 00:17:08,740 system down to elementary particles and 356 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:10,839 I would contend that we can afford to be 357 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:13,600 agnostic and not choose between or among 358 00:17:19,169 --> 00:17:16,380 these alternatives we can just go with 359 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:19,179 fundamental and worry about the details 360 00:17:22,919 --> 00:17:19,689 later 361 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:22,929 now an unexpected bonus astrology is 362 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:26,939 another perennial topic in the sse and 363 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:29,860 it actually fits very nicely into this 364 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:32,350 sketch consensus the link being 365 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:35,080 proposal by the late astrologer Zipporah 366 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:39,130 Dobyns no relation suggested that the 367 00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:41,460 mechanism for astrology is that human 368 00:17:45,539 --> 00:17:43,780 personality is preparing to incarnate 369 00:17:52,770 --> 00:17:45,549 choose to be born at symbolically 370 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:52,780 appropriate times so finally I recommend 371 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:54,160 for future directions 372 00:17:58,770 --> 00:17:56,320 I'll leave the slide up during Q&A but 373 00:18:01,500 --> 00:17:58,780 I'd say that our most I want to say our 374 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:01,510 most urgent need is ways to measure and 375 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,610 quantify aspects of consciousness 376 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:06,000 because the rest of our understand 377 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:07,630 understanding of science is 378 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,610 fundamentally mathematical we're never 379 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:11,679 going to be able to integrate it until 380 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:13,330 we get a mathematical understanding of 381 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:15,920 consciousness thank you 382 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:20,980 [Applause] 383 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:23,140 thank you your I just wanna mention this 384 00:18:26,610 --> 00:18:24,550 is really great especially for some of 385 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:26,620 our new members because you've covered 386 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:29,230 really all the topics and a great 387 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:31,150 overview I also want to mention to 388 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:33,310 everybody that York Dobyns holds the 389 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:35,290 record for the number of questions at 390 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:45,220 the microphone all right 391 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:48,790 so York I'd like to run one idea by you 392 00:18:56,610 --> 00:18:51,640 you were talking about they've ruled the 393 00:18:59,070 --> 00:18:56,620 laws governing consciousness might not 394 00:19:02,490 --> 00:18:59,080 match up with any known physical laws 395 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:02,500 and I have kind of something I picked up 396 00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:04,210 in a book called thought forms and in 397 00:19:08,970 --> 00:19:06,820 that forms there was a drawing by 398 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:08,980 something called a harmonic raff which 399 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:11,110 was a pendulum like drawing device 400 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:13,170 apparently popular in the 19th century 401 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:18,880 and they used that to draw quote thought 402 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:21,940 form so that does psychics who wrote the 403 00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:24,460 book could directly perceive thoughts 404 00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:26,830 and it was interesting to me that the 405 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:29,980 drawing machine the homograph was 406 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:33,760 drawing images that were like that were 407 00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:36,910 similar to their own perceptions and so 408 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:39,150 that would involve for example a 409 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:42,520 relationship of an XY swinging so it 410 00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:44,650 seemed then that that the laws governing 411 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:49,120 the that both the psychically perceived 412 00:19:55,470 --> 00:19:52,060 and material things from our more 413 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:55,480 mainstream world seemed to follow or 414 00:19:59,790 --> 00:19:57,600 which suggest they follow similar 415 00:20:02,730 --> 00:19:59,800 principles for example of 416 00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:02,740 proportionality on the one hand that's a 417 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:05,320 very interesting example that I don't 418 00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:08,770 know enough about and certainly things 419 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:11,140 like the harmonic oscillator behavior 420 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:14,260 are sufficiently abstract and 421 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:16,360 mathematical it's not surprising to see 422 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:19,140 them showing up in different areas but 423 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:21,910 that that's basically all I have to say 424 00:20:28,530 --> 00:20:25,500 about it we we don't know enough 425 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,540 basically I'd like to make a comment as 426 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:30,720 we're closing out this session 427 00:20:36,350 --> 00:20:32,850 zillions and with some reference to your 428 00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:36,360 talk here if I may I too had to look up 429 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:39,240 what is concealed Ian's and a being a 430 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:42,240 bit of a wordsmith I found con meaning a 431 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:45,140 whiff and then I put that together with 432 00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:48,330 zillions and I thought well maybe a 433 00:20:52,669 --> 00:20:50,039 little bit of humor and the whole thing 434 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:52,679 doesn't really hurt in fact I think we 435 00:20:58,730 --> 00:20:54,059 need a lot of that when we're taking a 436 00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:58,740 look at excuse me anomalies because that 437 00:21:05,659 --> 00:21:01,919 is where the discovery lies I think and 438 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:05,669 you're certainly right about that but in 439 00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:10,230 looking further I thought con cilia Tory 440 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:13,350 is a very close word and I think when 441 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:14,970 we're doing all of this it's not 442 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:17,820 necessarily been mentioned as a word but 443 00:21:24,140 --> 00:21:20,460 we have to take a look at relaxing our 444 00:21:26,899 --> 00:21:24,150 assumptions so both sides can come 445 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:26,909 together with a little more humility and 446 00:21:31,810 --> 00:21:30,600 relaxing our values and assumptions if 447 00:21:38,770 --> 00:21:31,820 we're really going to make some progress 448 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:41,810 okay so I I hate to disagree with you 449 00:21:47,539 --> 00:21:44,370 but I really have I really have to say 450 00:21:50,029 --> 00:21:47,549 this when you say that there's no room 451 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:50,039 in mathematical physics for new energies 452 00:21:58,580 --> 00:21:54,600 there are numerous solutions to 453 00:22:01,460 --> 00:21:58,590 Maxwell's equations that do not generate 454 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:01,470 a classical electromagnetic field and 455 00:22:08,049 --> 00:22:03,390 there are and there are many such 456 00:22:11,620 --> 00:22:08,059 equations in physics that generate 457 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:11,630 solutions to fields which are described 458 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:15,870 but but the they're not accepted because 459 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:19,200 they're virtual or their time reversed 460 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:21,750 or they don't you know they're not 461 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:24,330 typical for sure but there are many many 462 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:25,960 examples in 463 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:31,510 physics of new energies this is to some 464 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:35,529 extent getting down into too much detail 465 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:38,289 to discuss in a brief presentation but 466 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:41,260 my my statement about no new no room for 467 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,850 new fields is is based on the the public 468 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:48,159 announcements of various prominent 469 00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:51,370 physicists that we've we've got the 470 00:22:56,340 --> 00:22:53,380 standard model there can't be any 471 00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,350 additional fields that it isn't taking